by Travis Mateer

Exactly a month ago, on February 3rd, I wrote about the Chinese spy balloon and Eliza Bleu. Since I had just received the book I ordered by Elisa E, titled Our Life Beyond MKUltra, I decided to contact the publisher just to make sure this was NOT the same person, and it wasn’t.

The publisher forwarded along my email and, despite not really INTENDING to interview Elisa, a month later it happened and I am VERY glad it did because I learned some new things and had some other stuff confirmed. I hope you get something out of this conversation Allie and I had with Elisa, even if the subject matter seems a little out there at times. Or most of the time.

One of the things we spoke about after I stopped recording is the need for men to step up and help disclose what they know about the networks of abuse that make money (massive amounts) out of human misery. Since mind control techniques are in the hands of street-level pimps, and since entertainment on the dark web is beyond what most are willing to acknowledge even exists, both male perpetrators and male victims must come forward to help validate the reality of what’s happening.

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Thanks for listening!